If they recruit an agent they train the agent. But please stay on point. Yes, my upline gets paid via my sales, but to me thats a way I can ensure I get the proper training and support(i.e. I have 2 million dollars in liquid assets, not properties and some money. -. You are good at giving Ultimatums. State Farm offered a part time opportunity to agents? )So when they leave Primerica the chances of you having competition goes down considerably. Who is the easiest sales and the people who will give you lea way? And has been around a little longer than the last couple months. And I look for value. Matter of fact, it makes it worse, since you have no loyalty to any company. WebThe NCAA has three division levels: Division I, Division II, and Division III. If you sell bad term policies you are right the term policies will go up increase, as you get older, unless you have a guaranteed term. dont get emotional about any company, because at the end of the day its business and thets the way they look at it. We do not offer financial advice, advisory or brokerage services, nor do we recommend or advise individuals or to buy or sell particular stocks or securities. But then 544 million dollars after all expenses is nice amount for a company doing in a recession. Who likes to see the ass kisser get the good assignments? You will fail again, it is inevitable. You need to get coverage if you break a nail? liek. I can see that you are a CLIENT and not an agent. Annuities are over priced insurance policy. Theres also the part about massive recruiting. You remind me of many people who blame everyone else for their failures. James you might win for volume, but your clients will never be the quality that my agent gets. But you are wrong. Oh and all this talk about how everyone else out there is Soo unhappy in corp america let me ask you your positions you had before.. mcdonalds and wallmart dont count as corp america. Reminds me of a company that was selling silver coins. The Mortgage appointment has been around for many years. Your way costs hundreds of dollars more, has no backing or support, does not give you anything better, but many things worse. Yes it does cost more but then the protection is there. You exploit their lack of knowledge and use primerica slogans for every aspect of the business. Please review what your states rules are, if you are licensed and are bad-mouthing Primerica. I began my research simply because I knew someone (whether it was PFS or the rents) didnt have the truth but I was gonna get it in my own time. And I am curious, Do you have any licenses to practice in California? You see the way to make big money at PFS is to just recruit, recruit, recruit. An agent who has lost several clients to a company that is better. The Ritz and the Super 8 are both Hotels, but I rather stay at the Ritz. No one teaches about money, except Primerica. (This is conservative since they have started paying for the Securities Licensed.). I mentioned about conversion of a term policy and the benefit if considering a life settlement and it seemed to get past you. Then considering they will be bringing along a already licensed team from what they built on the outside they can ask for a higher commission level from the recruiting RVP. I will not solicit, sell, market or promote any investment, note, loan, insurance policy or any other financial product or service not approved by Primerica. Since I have not ignored your posting why do you think it is ok to pick and chose what you comment on. James again you are making simple mistakes. I can make money this way without EVER recruiting ANYONE. As for ownership, You said in the right situations. Just like PFS, I do not work for them as a business owner. Exactly what does th issue with todays mortgage crisis have to do with someone who has a health situation and high health care cost? The way you say it is the salesman saying that I am better. But then again, I remember about that toner salesperson selling me that garbage. )They use it to harass the clients into taking calls, or making calls to check on their life insurance. If you had a bad experience with your S class, and someone asks you your opinion, or it comes up in conversation, you ARE SUPPOSED to give your experience and opinion! Just like a person with High Blood Pressure, and Diabetes are not likely to get insurance, no one would take on the risk of having him as an agent. Up to this point you are under someone and they are responsible. Most people in these blogs including the author want a free lunch and they would be the kind of people that wouldve questioned God the Almighty when He was trying to get the people to the promised land. I put my priority in learning my products. Think about ityou can re-arrange the deckchairs on the Titanic all you wantthat ships still going down. . Now we all know that cheaper is not as good. Does that mean you will steal from your client, any chance you can? Again that happens in corporate america. Does the agent refer the client to another agent? I keep bringing up the BMW example, but he cant seem to get it. No that is good for Amway, and Quixtar, and Avon, because they expect you to do that from home. I have worked for companies that repair and sell residential equipment in my town. Unfortunately the opposition in most blogs against Primerica are made by the so-called semi-professional salespeople. Notwithstanding the basis for termination in Section 10 of your Basic Agreement, this Agreement may be terminated by either party with or without any reason or cause. Please state facts as I have, without knowing my carriers please find out who they are before calling them not good companies. i did not like the entire presentation for primerica, but not everyone feels the same about it. I am so glad you can cut and paste. Representative. WebAt the corporate level, diversification occurs when the diversified company enters into business outside the scopeof the existing business units. just a well informed client. All companies are a pyramid. (Already explained several times, and I know that Michael still may not understand the point.) In Econ 101 they talk about economic theories, like supply and demand, capital theories,and such. I remember the days of PFS continuing Ed. 2. Did you know that most companies spend billions on marketing? He had to pay an extra $700-900 to be cremated. But then again you are a salesperson. Or would you take the work and see if you can get it cheaper? After we left, she was one of the first new recruits in my independent agency. Ask your cousin or your RVP, if you built a team and you decided to leave Primerica for another opportunity, what can you take with you? He never badmouthed you or your new career, and never said that what he was doing was any better than what you do. You give up one leg, and then you get legs from everyone leaving your group. The point is if a life policy is court ordered and a person balks at the cost, they can use an Annuity along with the ROP. and can do that by using a better plan. Tom you cant be serious in your post. For that I would say if you really want to join the company then look for some other RVP office in yellowpages and see some of their meetings. Most of the people who become Primerica counselors are no longer doing it within a year or two. When it comes to value, I rather not have some person who is looking for a sale to contradict the competent advisers that have no interests in making a commission off me. If you times that by 20 years thats a savings of 12261.60. I can see that you are a CLIENT and not an agent. term at any comparative health level. Anyway, heres the truth. You ought to take a trip down to Borders and take a look at the self-help section. You are placing a deposit down to start your business. Now could I get it for cheaper, yes but I need to give up something to do that. 20yr. Do you tell your future clients that you failed to lead a group to success and blamed the company you represented. But then again I had a friend that got tired of getting these calls sent letters and said repeatily not to call him and they ignored him. I am not here to advertise any company. Unlike some people, I plan on retiring, I guess you are not, since you need to protect your income for your entire life. Now it is there for the company so that they do not lose the business that they have paid you for. _________________________________________________. i can understand your fear of the truth. You say AIG is a great company to buy term from, correct? To be equal to Primerica you need to give the following for $99. IF YOU ARE LICENSED, you will know hands on. And then they will go after your family. Also it is not 7x more likely. I would not like to choose from only one automobile Sheeshshame on me, and shame on you if you give them one dime.youve been warned , P.S. This is 240.00 they are told they have a savings plan. Or how about the agent that placed a piece of paper on top of the policy saying you can never cancel this policy. A client could get a 17-year, 24-year, 34-year etc. Hmmmm.its a win win situation for a clients and us. When a client purchases one of the products we represent then we get paid. 3) Im also mutual fund license so I can write my own retirement and education plans on which Ill earn 2% commission, and I plan to add these commissions to the savings plans. It just doesnt make sense when a company ask you to pay them for you to work for them. they quickly dropped to penny stocks and eventually was delisted. 2600/100.000= .26 or 26%. And with all the products out there and the companies that are having so much problems, I like having my funds watched over by a professional. If you get caught in a lie you sweep it under the rug and try to hope that no ones catches you. Theres a reason the starting commissions are low. For a person who is just a client you seem to drink from the same kool-aid pitcher. Please do not confuse me with any other James; this is the only post that I have written. How do I know, I am licensed in many of these areas and scheduled to take the exam for one in the next 4 weeks. You ought to be in politics and I can read very well. This is the Professional way to act? Fact Primerica has 6% of the face value with 2% of the Premiums. The freedom to choose my carriers with out a fear of having my contact cancelled. It is my business. Value comes in many forms but the best is I just got a call from my Agent. The plan that had was a plan paid by the employer. Hit that recruits warm market because they are probably going to quit anyway. They asked us what we needed the money for, and where it was going. Tom, you talk about Cancer & LTD. You stated. But then again if the client takes the difference, the amount in a conservative mutual fund of 8%, would be more than the ROP. I am curious do you always buy something and use it for something it had no intention of being used for. . Why does someone need insurance when they are retired? Well then the 18yr old just gives everyone he knows away the senior guys are happy and the junior guy thinks thats great, but then the will runs dry.. uh oh.. now its time for real business and talking to people we dont know.. Again you are making statements you do not have a clue about. Keep the lawyers handy, your victims will figure it out and get back at you soon. I do this so that these voices are the only one here. Remember that under their contract they do not own the clients or agents. Dont be so hostile, its all good.we will never agree and thats okay. Again You are wrong. Did the person who trained you on the job on A.C. Repair show you all his tricks? Securities is covered now, along with Auto and Home owners referrals pay out. A.L. Its just an option to a situation. I had no idea that they made a lot of their money from recruiting very interesting. You only get the death benefit. You definitely talk a great talk but in reality you are a selfish person who is looking for his next victim. My RVP says that Primericas policy is, you pay, you die, we pay meaning that Primerica almost always pays out regardless of the cause of death (obviously there are a few exlusions namely death by suicide within the first two years of the policy). Price is only an issue in the absence of Value. I posted yesterday about AIG. I have covered this so many times it is getting to be a broken record. That saidtheres no company in the regulated USA who would last 31 years in business if they had bad/illegal/take advantage of consumers type business practices. What happens, faithful reader, is that Primerica was never on this side of the argument before. I am sure if I had his help this post would have exceeded any limit that they have here for characters. Michael you know what you are talking about. There are various types of levels such as dumpy level, Y level, cushings level, tilting level, cookes reversible level and automatic level instruments for leveling in surveying. A lot of things are Mary Kay, Amway, and a lot of insurance sales are the same. @Michael Thomas. But then again you still paid more, and are giving and getting less. And who wants a copy when they can pay for the original. Did you ask why? I guess you are naive, just playing dumb. Person who left a company for more money, a person who stayed because it keeps him honest, and he does not need the temptation. My mother is 81 yrs. So why are you selling this to the wrong person. No tax benefits. And truth be told, if they dont do it here, then they probably wont do it anywhere else either. 10. I dont work for the company but have some good friends that do and are much more happy at their job than I am at mine working for myself. There is no contractual requirement to convert to a perm. Why only protect income in death when disability is 7X more likely than death? Telling them jsut the good points. You get something that you do not with the other hammer. I mentioned about conversion of a term policy and the benefit if considering a life settlement and it seemed to get past you. They will lose them and more since they are going to be sued. Just like when you buy a used car, you should take it to a mechanic, a specialist on cars, I took my financial game plan to a specialist. Im very happy that you were able to find your niche. He didnt. Now, any adviser that says term is temporary is planning on selling them Cash value. Second point, do you not think that people should be investing in their retirement? Im in the learning stages right now but I believe Primerica works with Edward Jones. I otherwise would not have sought out investment advice or invested. A Debt Stacking program so they get out of debt. Do you have your mortgage certification? I showed you that is not prudent, especially in the light of the Mortgage Crisis. They are not complex, they are as easy or as extensive as the clients Costing them money in Bonuses. Since it only covers Life insurance, that is understandable. This could be another attempt to do this. And then see it from a company not looking to make money off either side. Do you think that if she was as good as Michael, I find it incredibly hard to believe that after 17 years in PFS you can say with a straight face that your highest income attained has anything to do with the companys system or its products. There we go again with cost or Price. As for the 900K earner we know that income does come from production of a team of agents. I did not sign a non-compete agreement. This investment includes commissions you may receive. If you need a refresher, I can pull out my sheet that I have in my Primerica papers that I got for going to their training. Then you say, But when I chatted with my Agent about these an other products I was interested in, he said read about these policies on the internet, the Wall street journal, and other Professional Publications that talk about money. If I save a client $17.00 a month I could offer them a Legal Plan or maybe a small amount of disability depending on the comapny. The Insurance guy got a call from me asking about all these policies. Is there another way to get into this business without spending alotta money or going to school for 2 yrs? Your small little insults really have no merit since we are talking insurance. So call me a Whole lifer if you must. . Having an intelligent and tactful baseshop is truly key in this business. Sales are sales. Bye the way Is itBuy term and invest the difference or is it buy ROP and invest the difference. If you want your name to mean more than cheap products and less value, please work for him. But I never had the need to. And they need to buy the most expensive type of cash value. Conceptual Level. Michael does not even use his true name. - Best of luck to you. I agree with your entire post. So it cost you, the independent, over $2000 to get the same things it cost the Priemrica (spelling) agent, $99. We will never claim to be financial planners, but we can teach you about how money works and how to make it work for you. If you dont like what you hear, then move on to something elseits your prerogative, right? Thats the problem, I did seek out infromation about he real world. Since you have missed that is several of my posts, I can only guess most of what is said to you by your clients is missed. And what about professionalism: Most professionals leave their office number, not a cell phone, unless they do not have one or want to hide something. I am curious are you blind, or just ignorant on what you are selling? But then again nothing is surprising me about you. Primericas term PFS is a young companylooking to expand massively and branch out its market. Is it that they are eating your lunch? IF you want the easiest way to get mortgage appointed, it is $400. Securities TEst and License My friend is very knowledgable about finances so this is why Im on the fence about this. See you at the top. Isnt it time you stop selling a pipe dream to your downlines. Less than .00001. commissions to your account. At one time was a Primerica agent. Do not trust me a simple man who has read many people. There is no perfect fit. 35 year guaranteed term I AM NOT AN AGENT. Also about the 90 years old, why do they need a policy? Yes you can use a wrench, but why when their are so many tools. Get over it if it strikes you wronglyits the internet. May be that is why you do not sell mutual funds and such. if your field trainer took your referrals- you have a crappy baseshopswitch to a new one your complaint better be legitgood baseshops dont accept crybabies) Then, whithin my baseshop, that $99 that you sepnd to join our business-you can get backby witnessing 6 training sales and hiring 3 people. All the money books and magazines say this. IF I give up 10,000 leg, and get 3 to 4 legs in exchange, I am up 20,000 to 30,000. And they are competition. , Since talking to you, It makes me want to join the ranks of Primerica, just to make sure you can do little to no damage. Then they try to get those people to take out a loan or buy some investment thats supposed to help them clear up debt. By the way you can only be embarrass if you do nto knwo the significance of the questions. Now as far as the site prices im sure you know nothing is in stone until the client goes through underwriting and the policy is issued. Word of mouth advertising is the least expensive way to advertise.. The only one who wins is them. You have to sell bad products to clients to make up the difference. Primerica agents can write to any fund they want to. I guess you never really investigated this at all. If you cannot laugh at yourself, then you must be really wound tight. I post sites. Ok thats easy. It was funny that a guy try to sell him cash value life insurance right before he died for estate preservation. Thank you so much for FINALLY settling the issue. I had some guy pick-off my resume on CareerBuilder and I was able to trace him to Primerica. That CPA that Tom dumped on, closed a variable annuity this weekend for $600,000. want to be treated. Tom you also said, Second, your attitude about this shows me you need to quit. So let me say this again. Do you know not everyone saves money, or some people do have to spend down for medicaid purposes. If your Basic Agreement is terminated for any reason, this Agreement will, without additional notice, automatically terminate. Some people just dont like the point of paying for Term and not getting anything in return except coverage. The mutual funds are NOT owned by Citi or Primerica; they just use other companies that have good ratings. These are two things that Michael/Thomas does not understand. Let me just say sometimes there are situations when a court may require Life Insurance coverage. I havent seen it. I am sorry I am not talking to your level. If you continue to focus on price, go get your food at 99 cent stores. I plan to work as a nurse part time (have accepted an offer already) and plan to work with primerica part time as well. Not everyone had to come in at the lower level. Remember the Movie Coming to America Eddie Murphy. The insurance companies and the agents know that the odds of that happening is slim, very slim. But first Iam a Christian. Agents with access to Primericas rates report that it does not offer competitive pricing. Look at Randy Pausch,he was given 6 months 12 year to live. Since my child rider gives my children the ability to get insurance without having to pass a medical test it has value. I want a company that has been a good company. Get it? It said I rather have 1 person of 100 men than 100% of one. > I invested in American Funds when I was 20 to 23 yrs old ($2,000/yr for 3 yrs) because a Primerica representative reached out to me. How else can you help a client preserve the estate for his heirs? Also we dont get paid any money to recruit or when somebody joins. The client can choose any length, or any *combination* of term to customize their program. Im getting my Sr Rep promotion and well on my way to District promotion Well see what happens. I had to say i was giving her what we (PFS) could offer. downline agents personally dealt on behalf of PFSHMI; (ii) the solicitation is of a customer whose purchases of the PFSHMI authorized products or services resulted in your earning commissions (which should be evident, for example, in commission records provided to you); and (iii) the solicitation is of a customer who at the time of the solicitation lives within fifty (50) miles of the location of the principal address(es) that you had during the one (1) year period before termination of this Agreement (as determined in accordance with this Agreement or any written amendment). And he over-simplifies the issues when he says cheaper must not be as good., I am curious, Is not a YUGO cheaper than BMW? Because his license is under Thomas. Service is not there. You cant take your premiums off your taxes. Meaning it was all talk and no MEAT ( Meaning Gods word). This would be non-captive. 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