He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. That has been documented and proven through therapy notes. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Well, and it troubles me too, that so many of our Christian organizations seem to be more beholden to lawyers advice and counsel than they do the Word of God. Please contact us or click here to learn more about how to enable JavaScript on your browser. Because we represent their interests. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. It is a collection of people. So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. Julie, thats whats so interesting about this story to me as I got deeper into it, I started to understand That, you know, when you go to the movies, and you see a story, you expect, okay, that guys the villain. In fact, I know some of them. The thief knows how to how to get through that lock, right? The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. And the Nancy Ortberg situation, a hug that lasted too long. And I could explain why I think thats funny, but you have to have extreme accountability, the larger your platform gets. I understand that the desire to have elders dealing with what Ill call Echelon or tier level, theological topics: What does the church think about, you know, for example, racial reconciliation? WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. Pete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrysteaching team from 2003 to 2021. Maybe some of your listeners are familiar with that you can go on YouTube and and see what thats all about. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. And another womans situation, theyre in an elder board meeting, and Bill Hybels, you know, has his hand on a womans leg, and no one else can see. And I do think theres a spiritual stronghold, I hope and pray that it will be broken in our area. He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. Hes one of the good guys. And something else that you mentioned about the board, which I found fascinating was that the Willow Creek board had an awful lot of lawyers on it. That to me, is a corruption of the role. I would probably have been among those who defended Bill saying, He couldnt have done these things; Hes too strong of a Christian leader. I see this culture as similar to the Corinthian church with the man who was involved with his fathers wife. You can choose from more than 60 majors and learn in a Christian environment known for its spiritual values, leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. Posted by Jonathan Deatherage on Apr 02, 2019. I encourage you to start praying again and trust God to open doors for you in godly and meaningful fellowship. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe They made a lot of friends. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. But its an analog. So many people are looking the other way. That way, youll never miss an episode. Why is it that nobody outside a very small group of women who had no power, really no position, why didnt others come to their rescue? I think that was a move of God, a move of the Holy Spirit. What is it was Chicago? I hope you have a great day and God bless. Like so many of you, I love Pete. Inside their system, they need to be guarded, governed, guided. They had so many churches, thousands of churches coming on board and being a part of those. He gave me a few new friends here and there, people to pray with, to share with, to be coworkers in some small ministry, etc. But it was after a period of I dont know the details, and I dont know how much youre at liberty to say them, but its my understanding he went away for a period of time to kind of reflect and assess how he was doing and how he was handling things. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray Do you understand what Im saying? Welcome to the Roys report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Its so HARD today to know who to donate to. But I have to say that in the middle of dealing with a lot of tall weeds and bugs, God has also given me some flowers and fruit trees to enjoy. And he committed sex acts with her. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. If you go back through Willow Creeks archives, you can see all the, you know, the authors of books who came in and were platformed at Willow Creek. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? And I can only imagine what the economic forces are behind the scenes for that, but it really disappoints me, that that hasnt happened. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. James MacDonald was friends with Ed Stetzer. Telling the Truthis the international on-air and online media ministry that distributes the teaching content of uniquely-gifted Bible teachersStuart and Jill Briscoeto help people know Christ and experience Life in all its fullness. I havent seen a lot of true owning, true repenting, true confessing. And you made the statement that if you have the character to lead, you dont need a manual. Ive asked that question many times. Think about the people whove done it historically, you know, the Chuck Swindolls that I mean, we can we can run off a list of names, we can also run off a list of failures. and I found these people in those imperfect churches! I attended Willow for seven years. Not sad or contemplative, but agitated and very irritated. And what lessons can we learn from Willow Creeks mistakes? Julie, it is great to be with you again. I Later Telling the Truth began airing in several countries in southeast Asia and across 10 countries in southern Africa. And that set the course for some of these more severe things to continue happening, and then to even get more and more severe. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. And these men are good actors. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Interestingly enough, during the interview, he seemed extremely angry and resentful. Yeah, thats right. I dont know the answer but rampant clergy abuse just took my discontentment to a whole new level. To view their entire showroom online. The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. Pete served as the senior pastor at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas for nearly 30 years, and he now ministers to pastors and organizational executives through personalized, professional coaching. Well, Mitch, this has been read. Explain that. Like if you go back and you actually read his books line-on-line, there are some things in there in those books where you go, For a pastor, that should be unacceptable. But he was attenuating his church culture and culture at large to him in his behavior. Okay, how it didnt bring accountability. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. If they have the character to lead the accountability will help keep them you know, keep them honest, so to speak, you know, its kind of like when you put a bike lock on your bike that. Is that correct? Fortunately, we have not had so much as one complaint about any one of our pastors or staff members. This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? I think that they were scared of what Ill call the Christian Industrial Complex that had risen up around Bill, the economic consequences of speaking out on a topic of high consequence. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. Its one of the beauties and the deformities of social media is social media is agile. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. It was the summer of 2000, and I was a college student on staff at Pine Cove Christian Camp. I think they can do it effectively. But at 22, I completely bought it. Mitch is an attorney, a church elder and an advocate for abuse victims. Put a skin tag on it or a flesh tag. And so I hope your listeners understand what I mean, when I say this, thats how good God is that he can use people who are even morally bankrupt, to bring people to himself. And the thing that is astonishing to me, you used the issue of emotional vulnerability is that, you know, a lot of times our strengths are our weaknesses. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. It is not a building. Yeah, I think youre gonna be waiting a while. David Jankowski. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. But you had said you had gotten this manual and it was about, you know, basically how to be an elder and how to lead. Well Mitch, one of the things Ive never discussed is that we used to attend Willow Creek. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. What I need most is what I dont have. That night we had a guest speaker come in for a special presentation. I had no idea what to expect as this lone man stood on the stage. Oh Well, and I appreciate your service to the church. And Harvest was the same thing. Very few. These little bitty people, from Willows perspective, who helped win the PR back, its a miracle. I do. And youre in the process right now of looking for a senior pastor. This is just the way things are in Corinth. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. They know there would be swift and sure discipline, if not firing, even with one mistakedepending on the severity of the misbehavior. And you you actually refer to it as multi-level marketing. I was a member of WCCC for many years. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. And not elevated above it. Im Julie Roys. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. Thats a rhetorical question. How does our elder board navigate things differently with that Pastor? And you mentioned to me that there were some stop signs along the way. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. There was another case that also occurred where he committed oral sex with his assistant. Senior pastors dont need advocates. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Its my understanding that was a watershed moment. I dont know. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. He said, Pete, you should have one lawyer on your board but not more than one. And I believe that there is some really sound wisdom in that. And so when you see behaviors that look like grooming, you know, John Calvin, Im not a Calvinist. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. So, you know, Julie, its really its death by 1000 cuts. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is Powerful ministry at some points. Yeah, they eventually did. But as you say its Gods grace that despite all that hes used these men to bless many, despite everything. It is simply to feed ourselves. It was a huge fixture in evangelicalism. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth's media outreach. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. And thats not what this is about. God uses the weak things of this world to confound the strong, right? Okay. I think it took courage and boldness on his part to be able to do that. When you think about the economic reach of an organization that was that size within evangelicalism, my goodness, even Christianity Today was scared to run articles about it. This was something that was very deeply ingrained in their culture. I What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. He represented two women involved in the sex abuse scandal involving Bill Hybels. And presented them with the information, he essentially tossed it to the side and said, So what?, No consequences. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. And I think that Bill Hybels created an advocacy structure around him by having that many lawyers on the board. So thanks again. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. I was blown away. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? Frankly I find church to be excruciatingly lonely. Thank you so much. And I had a wonderful experience. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, Also, Id encourage you to read the website below. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. Yeah, I just saw you ran a story on MacDonalds massive mansion in Illinois being held in the name of Vanilla Bean LLC. And yet, when these issues started being raised about Bill Hybels, the larger church, other than you know, a few people you mentioned the Ortbergs, for example, they came forward and spoke. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? They were almost sacred and benevolent and unable to do wrong. Thats a bad default state. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. We are egalitarian and sophisticated, and we are Gods chosen church to show how ministry is supposed to be done. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. The outside investigation report said something along the lines of, Bill Hybels hundreds or thousands of emails with this woman were, not available. Well, as it turns out my understanding from talking to witnesses, those emails were actually destroyed. At least, thats how I saw it. But I guess this is the question so many are asking is, Can anybody be in those kind of jobs with the kind of responsibility that is put on one human, one person to lead thousands of people? And so many looking to him for vision for leadership for everything. And theyre born knowing how to do that. But so far, I havent seen that. And I remember you saying. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Serving in the role of elder is a huge responsibility. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. So your pastor, he chose himself to step down, correct? And I think you hit the nail on the head. And sadly, I think they have still. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. I was kind of thrust into the middle of it out of love for wanting to help my friends and man, that thing escalated pretty quickly. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. He was running and we were praying that he would surrender fully to God. Im doing well but probably not as well as you because youre on vacation in Florida. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. But this certainly raises red flags. May you and your family be richly bleSSed!!! The ministry began in 1971 while Stuart served as senior pastor of Elmbrook Church in Brookfield, Wisconsin, which grew into the largest evangelical church in the state. It manifested at the Human Resources level. It is. Hi. Why did so many look the other way for so long? And I was sitting in my office one day and Vonda picked up the phone and gave me a call and kind of told me what was coming down the pike in terms of the Chicago Tribune article that basically lit the fuse on that entire situation at Willow. I think thats dangerous. And its pervasive, and people are, theyre using it. And which really makes me sad because theyve had a change in leadership. And its so important, I think, for any of us who are doing any kind of ministry at all, if we get our identity wrapped up in what were doing, then what were doing is no longer ministry, its no longer service to the Lord. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. I know that the original elders of Harvest thought they could keep James accountable despite the knowledge that he had glaring character flaws from the beginning. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Just what I call a deformed leadership culture at the church where certain things became acceptable that shouldnt. So appreciate. Jill And I really was hopeful that there was going to be a public apology, and yet, None. How do you recommend searching worth while places to donate too? But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. John and Nancy Ortberg had been at Willow Creek as pastors. So thank you. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. I mean, you dont need to be trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, because it is gonna manifest itself in bad ways. And while youre at it, wed really appreciate it if you help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review and then please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. I hope someday I can overcome this cynicism because I need Church as it should be. Or what is the church think about Calvinism? something along those lines. And now lets put that in the past. Willow did not want to reckon with the deformed culture that had manifested underneath Bills leadership. Leave them alone. I can see the elders (more than half of which were women), and people in general saying, It was only a hug. And Im good friends with her husband Scott Dyer as well. At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. 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