What was the point? She asks him to absolve her of her title first, so that instead of becoming the queen dowager and staying in the palace, she can go away and wait for him to join her. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. I can't handle 2 or more at a time and it makes me sad when they compete for the ratings. I'm not even thinking that this drama is even close to reality lol. And nobody likes him anyway, right? I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. He is important. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); Gimme a break! The drama took some risks like killing off the king halfway, according to the actor who played haksan it was something they had in mind since the beginning. if (d.getElementById(id)) return; Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. Yes it depends on the perspective. But Minister Shin and the queen dowager convinced themselves that their crimes were righteous and that they were morally innocent, when in reality they only wanted power and revenge. Hmm. that is not a given that's how it's scripted for sure. sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. What was the point? I could have accepted that, though, because Ha Seon only wanted the power to protect the people he loved, and his sister and the ahjae were safe, so he succeeded and then felt it would be better to hand over the throne to someone more suitable. She is depressed and gets yet another false hope that Hasun could be alive. In sageuks, the best character will always be the one with a twisted past, the one that isn't entirely black or white but has extremely strong values in something, and will do anything to protect those values (i.e. The makers of this show (and I assume the movie) decided to show that story by means of a doppelganger plot. He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. And with the way Hasun suddenly reappeared and the Queen didn't even ask him where he was, only asked what took him so long?? That too, out of desperation I would have taken as some sort of poetic justice, because Yi Heon died so Ha Seon could be king, and Ha Seon died because of Yi Heon's crimes against the Queen Dowager. Director Kim Hee-won is a new discovery for me, and I definitely see why everyone praised her as they did. We learn that the soldiers who arrived just in time were General Kims, Lord Yoos old friend. ;-), "From the masterful acting, to the cinematography, to the heart-pounding soundtrack, ..", I can't agree more than this. Why even give us Yi Heon as a character with a backstory to begin with if youre just going to do that to him. Inconsistencies are there but being able to create a good show that MOST people clearly enjoyed was thanks to the people behind it. The basis of him getting on the throne was not exactly morally right anyway. But Ha Sun states that he has committed no crimes, because the secret letter was his way of protecting the nation, which is his duty as king. Nobody found out the King died because the Clown is the King. Could it be that Lee Kyoung-young's recent turn as the Big Bad in supernatural thriller ROOM NO. So-woon tells him that hes done enough, and that she supports his decision. I found the ending a little stretched don't get me wrong, I always want happy endings and in this case a life as commoners for Ha-Seon and the Queen, but it seemed to me that the story was wrapped up that way to create suspense about Ha-Seon fate (and, I think, to give us assurance that his life will be safe in the future). It was a great journey and Yeo Jin Gu really killed it. Meanwhile Ha Sun is torn after receiving an urgent letter regarding troops on the Frontier. }); We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. Why did you bother to watch it if you thought it was so bad? Btw, it's wonderful to see you back on the comment section <3. Lucky you, for having a fairly good Sageuk as your 1st one. created an account to say, I totally agree with you. Minister Shin tries to bargain, offering Ha Sun the queen dowagers head if he lets him go. SO many eye rolling inconsistencies with the time period it took me right out of the whole story but I enjoyed half it at least thanks to the actors. Better late than never is the best I can do these days. It didn't turn out to be a bad drama, but it's not like I missed something important! When I thought it couldnt get worse, it did. So what!? Thank you @lollypip for the recap! Meanwhile, MLSHR had ALL the potential to be THE Sageuk of the decade, but it tanked, epically. The writing, on the other hand, definitely the weakest link. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. 3.2/4 Thank you, fellow Beanies, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. He reminds her that he made her promise never to harm herself, and says that hes returning the knife only so she can protect herself, but she says that she intends to keep her word. First she lost the king, now she lost the clown. I give the story, props and acting 9/10 and Haksun (Chief Secretary) could get an 11/10 for his acting alone. All this leads me to wonder now if the ending is much darker than it seems on the surface? ;-). And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? Of course, they arent worth the time I suppose. It felt like I was really grinding my gears when I started watching HAECHI. He says that she hasnt been officially deposed yet, so shes still of higher status than the king, and can order him to dethrone the traitor clown. The entire thing? I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. I was caught up in some work! Add it to the list of things that are harder to believe than time travel and zombies Yoo In-Na's cuteness in Touch Your Heart. The king was instantly killed. But we are inevitably always going to reach an impasse @shaani. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. The Crowned Clown Season 1 2019 16+ A low-class commoner clown, sits in the throne of the King who is in peril of losing his country. Is he now AWOL? Hello? Or is he just slow witted when it comes to matters like his own safety? or However, they should have shown the Queen passing on so that Ho-Sun could have been stated met her in the afterlife. The survival of the great majority allows everything? As an audience, it was too easy to see these things in modern-day context instead of the context of the time period, where often, getting rid of someone, though a heinous choice, was often the only choice to protect the power of the throne (and thus the people). She orders Ha Sun to confess to colluding with Aisin Gurun and disrespecting Ming, their ally. I'll definitely read it. At the start of the story, we could see that he gave up, he was just in damage control task. Here, I'm justwhat is even there to say? But because he did such a good job, I almost wished he would stay (however in the movie I wanted him to stay more than anything). js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; Jung Bo-suk, Oh Man-seok, Kim Yeo-jin, and Jung Sung-mo are in it, which makes it very appealing. What was the point? But from what I gather, they didn't. The decoy is a clown who happens to be the king's doppelgnger. also the end was dreamlike, similar to the soft focus happy endings of Crash Landing on You but were these true endings or just wishful thinking? And its not because I didnt get the ending that I wanted that makes me sad. She did get to meet his sister without knowing it was her. Also, MLSHR had one of the BEST instrumental collections of Sageuk-land. What right do they have to the throne? The bad points : I'm not a fan of too much flashbacks, but in this case I think it would have been useful for the story, the end with jump in the future. There almost were- with the Queen almost committing suicide out of guilt, Shin almost exposing the Clown as a fake, and Ha Seon finding out Haksan killed the king. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. I read the rest afterwards but i still have to say the same. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, there's no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. I am mad, salty, disappointed, call it what you will, at the mistreatment of the King as a written and constructed character. Then, both Jang and the King could have remained somewhere and tended to their wounds. Thinking the faulty thing has zero faults and loving it under THAT impression? (Oh, right. No man can serve two masters. 4. Finally they live happily ever after. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. The ending failed. I swear you won't regret it. and so on. That was during my first DB live-watch, OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which got into some trippy metaphysics. Episode 1 King Seonjo dies, and his fears about the fate of his youngest son Prince Yul come true when his successor Yi Heon (Gwanghae-gun) orders Prince Yul's arrest for treason. At a couple of points in the past two years, I was simultaneously live-watching 9-10 dramas along with older shows and films. Jin-goo has indeed been phenomenal. But he tells her that hes been following the kings orders, and for his loyalty, Ha Sun forgives his crimes. So, I'm genuinely happy you got CROWNED CLOWN as your 1st Sageuk. The plot cant take any additional eps. The end was quite disapointing, I mean the jump in the future was useless. Maybe even shown the Queen's Lady having a hint of interest in him. And some shows just seem to have an initial hump that I have to get over before they draw me in but then from there on out it's smooth sailing. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; It was unconvincing. appId : '127538621120543', I watched the first 15 minutes or so and knew how they would treat the king's character that I couldn't stand to watch anymore. I enjoy things I also think are objectively bad. Because they do make sense. It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. The Clown : Yeo Jin Gu really acted him very well, showing the subtil evolution from a simple puppet to a real King. What does a clown symbolize? I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. It worked, because the scene in which he was hurt was really beautiful and I was on the edge of my chair and heartborken for So-Woon. The Crowned Clown 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-14 | 1 Season | Period Pieces Standing in for an unhinged Joseon king, a look-alike clown plays the part but increasingly becomes devoted to protecting the throne and the people. Or change the writer. A verification email has been sent to your new email address. I also accepted, that the king had to be eliminated for the greater good. Sheesh. The ending is meh.. (link to my Episode 8 write up because it wasnt letting me do it as a word hyperlink: http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/ ). Thank you for recapping CROWNED CLOWN, @lollypip, especially as it is not the only drama on your plate. The story made a lot of promises, and then didnt deliver. Ha Sun was a good king, and he could have been a great king, but he wasnt a happy king. Thanks for noting that Yoon Park portrayed Ha Sun's successor, Lord Giseong. Hurting herself means kind of killing herself and finding him in afterlife i guess but i don't think thats how it happened. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. I'm gonna stick to my version, the ending of this series was right after he installed the Tax Law. I thought I would have caught up through at least ep. He doesnt have long to ponder it though as Sin Chi Soo makes his move and, along with a handful of rebels, storms the palace in a bid to take him out of the loop once and for all. Still beautiful though. I love the show, but they have to redo the ending!!! I mentioned earlier that it would have given Yeo Jin-goo the possibility to play triple roles; and And thats really poor writing. It was a character with a vision for his country. Live together in a small hut just the two of them and So Woon's maid in obscurity for the rest of their lives? }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); In a desperate attempt to protect their young king from assassination, a decoy is put on the throne. Connect with Facebook He falls to the ground, and although Moo-young tries to hold Ha Sun back, he breaks away and runs to cradle Minister Lees head in his arms. My sister's 1st one was MLSHR, and now she thinks it's the BEST ever Sageuk in the whole world and uses it as a scale to measure other Sageuks. (function(d, s, id) { It's not surprising a lot of people think that Cray Cray's death was a narrative mistake. But to create a 'bad' end then rush a 'good' one without solid backing feels weird. The guard somehow managed to rule for few more years but was assassinated later. She gave up and it seems they met in Heaven? The story takes place in Joseon period, when power struggles surrounding the throne had reached extreme levels. I'm relieved to know that you, too, find HAECHI a mental bandwidth hog. According to Nielsen Korea, the highly-anticipated March 4 finale of the historical drama achieved the drama's highest viewership. What? (Cases in point: TEMPERATURE OF LOVE and BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. I really liked to see how the generosity of this character touched the people around him. It would have been fun to watch someone as stoic as him being all awkward around someone as bubbly and mischievous as she is. After all the drama and pain of the last 15 and a half episodes, after firmly declaring he wants to take Yi Heon's throne and use his power for good, he justdecides to walk away. Ser que foi o rei que ele indicou? So what if youre a prince. They just look at each other for a long time, then So-woon says that she has this dream all the time, but when she approaches, he usually disappears. We just want better developed characters with a clearer plot and an ending that is believable. tvN's hit drama " The Crowned Clown " has ended with a bang! Jung Il-woo is giving a fine performance as Prince Lee Geum. This drama you have to choose the ending I chose he had died then she did and he came to get her so they could go together to heaven. The Crown Season 5: Ending Explained | Full Spoiler Review & The Real Life True Story That Could Inspire Season 6. A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. Legacy? Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. Perhaps because of unavoidable comparison, CROWNED CLOWN has come up a bit short. Hence I've been making an effort to be somewhat detached and not take CROWNED CLOWN too personally. Not bashing the show, these are just my thoughts. The palace is thrown into turmoil and at the center of this chaos is our clown King, Ha Sun. For sure an emotional roller coaster ride. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? He says that if she refuses, hell hang Minister Lees body at the gates for the people to see, and then theyll know that she caused this rebellion without justification. Firstly, shouldnt the King have been escorted out to safety in the event that people who were waiting to attack him would have? And it seems they were successful in it. On the other hand, last week I finished reading the existing 106 chapters of the translation of NIRVANA IN FIRE, and am looking forward to commencing that watch when I'm current with HAECHI. She enters the palace at the pre-arranged time and finds Ha Sun alone in the throne room. It's like you've scooped every single thought I had about this waste of potential right out of my brain and put it in better words. Lets break this down. Which is a rarity these days in Kdrama land. I appreciate your effort a lot. Please click the link in that email to complete the email change process. The sweeping under the rug of the regicide, adultery, and treasonous impersonation issues was problematic for me. The Crown season 5 ends with Princess Diana preparing to take her sons Prince William and Prince Harry on a holiday to St. Tropez, organized by Al-Fayed. Great points. Distracted, Moo-young tries to get to Ha Sun, but hes stopped by a sword through the chest. It kept me Interested. Because, honestly, he had so many enemies while he ruled. So now, @pakalanapikake, you see why this show and I were never meant to be. I was glad that Ho-sun and the Queen finally got together but the ending sounded more eternal due to the mist and not quite earthy. But this show decided to ignore one crucial part of this premise. I'm glad I tuned in. I'll have to go back and rewatch it. I was sorely disappointed by the ending. Set in the heart of Korea and split across sixteen 75 minute episodes, The Crowned Clown is a dramatic, politically charged series awash with tension, twists and turns. Not king and the clown. I have seen a lot if historical dramas because i generally like historical/costume dramas and this is certainly a drama that i really enjoyed. }); Nor can I believe that Prince Jin-pyung would have been caught so flat-footed at the outdoor assembly. anyway. Likewho took care of him? Then they reunited in death and walked off into the sunset. It made Ha Sun sound like the Winter General's bartender sister in HWAYUGI. The queen dowager grows nervous when things are quiet for too long, but then a soldier runs in to tell her excitedly that they stormed the palace and captured the impostor king. Ha Sun has become immune to this mans slippery techniques of deception. His fears. What can I say. The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. Prince Charles travels to Hong Kong to mark the end of British rule as the region became an administrative region of China. There are of course all the issues with adultery and what shouldve been her reaction given the historical context and even arguments about who was the better husband for her, but none of that is really that important or relevant because on a basic writing level, her character, after trying to commit suicide promptly forgot, or acted like the King as a character never existed and was never important. But Ha Sun stabs him in the belly, declaring that the price for killing Minister Lee is his death. Sorry for the late reply! Heh. Hed answered that it was to serve Ha Sun loyally and die in the line of duty, and Moo-young gets his wish. He hands her a letter from Ha Sun, which says that if she promises not to punish his people, he will confess his crimes and hand over the royal seal. He gave an incredible performance; A. Jong-rim and Jae-gu, who got to take the civil service exam because of Minister Lee, offer to help Ho-geol get revenge, but Ho-geol says theyll only lose their lives. I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. I dropped this drama once Yi Heon died, but have been keeping up with recaps only to be disappointed with what the writers have been doing every episode. Hope his next drama also does well. Honestly, his death was really a nice plot in the story. I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. It was an enjoyable show, very pretty. In the end, she didn't even feel part of the family; she wasn't welcome. You will receive a link to create a new password via email. To kill off Moo Young and leave Ha Seon with literally no one but So Woon? Who wouldn't, if they were up against Hae Mo-su and his badass grandson?! And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. But I dont know the Clown. Because it seeemed that he was a good Crown Prince until his dad died and made this stupid discour before. She notes that this is her first time seeing the throne in person, and that Prince Yul is dead, but her blood will soon sit on the throne. But sometimes powerful people, criminals would keep people who really look like them to escape death just as yi heon did. Because the show you THOUGHT you were getting, the doppelganger plot with the tension and juxtaposition created by that, is actually a different show altogether. It was one of my most fun and blissful experiences here at DB. Could have had someone stab Officer Jang and as they're about to finish him he picks up a sword and kills the man, then the man with the arrow could have shot him, then Jang could have killed the man and collapsed, leading us to think that both he and Jang are dead. Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. Couldnt stop watching. I know its a tragedy but why so confusing. At the end of its fifth season, The Crown has taken viewers through much of the turmoil and strife that engulfed the royal family over the course of that . The drama version had put their own spin on it. The Crown is unlikely to continue past a sixth season, the Netflix show's executive producer has confirmed. I must have been bonkers. The King comes back later, as a cameo and as an excuse for conflict but we will kill him off because he's really not important to the Clown's story now; he's in the way. 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